Regaining Control of Your Time with Jaimee Campanella

On this episode of the Becoming a Sleep Consultant podcast we discussed: 

• Best practices for managing, allocating and structuring our time 
• How to schedule with kindness, awareness and intentionality! 
• The ebbs and flows of entrepreneurship and how to achieve “balance” as we grow our businesses 

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Transcript:

Intro: Welcome to Becoming a Sleep Consultant! I’m your host Jayne Havens, a certified sleep consultant and founder of both Snooze Fest by Jayne Havens and Center for Pediatric Sleep Management. On this podcast, I’ll be discussing the business side of sleep consulting. You’ll have an insider’s view on launching, growing, and even scaling a sleep consulting business. This is not a podcast about sleep training. This is a podcast about business building and entrepreneurship.

Jayne Havens: Jaimee Campanella is a time strategist and productivity consultant who mentors and guides parents, professionals, and entrepreneurs to take control of their time. She is the creator and principal facilitator of the Time Power program that gives people the essential tools and strategies to avoid overwhelm and tame chaos so that they can regain control of their time for good.

That sounds amazing, Jaimee. Thanks for being willing to chat. I’m excited to have you here today.

Jaimee Campanella: Yeah, thank you so much for having me. I am thrilled to be here to talk about time, which is one of my favorite topics.

Jayne Havens: So, let’s jump right in. Time is something that we talk about all the time, especially inside of our CPSM community, as we’re juggling a million things and trying to make time for the things that matter most. Can you outline some best practices and tools for managing and allocating time so that we can both feel and be more productive?

Jaimee Campanella: Sure. This is going to sound so simple and obvious. But a calendar is the number one basic thing that you need to start with with your time. So many people have no idea where their time is actually going. I hear this all the time. “All the time escaped me. I didn’t have enough time.”

Well, how are you actually auditing and tracking and seeing how you’re using time? This is such a thing people have no awareness of. They scroll on social media for three hours when they intended to look for 10 minutes, or they were going to go make lunch, and they made this extravagant thing that took 45 minutes when they could have done something in 10. This is just day-to-day like no concept of time.

To be more productive, you really do need to know where your time is going. The most basic tool you can use is that calendar. You can do this electronically. Obviously, I’m a huge fan of Google Calendar, color coding and really, planning, and time blocking. Some people are paper planners, which is great. It doesn’t matter which form which product — physical, electronic — you’re using. But you have to have a structure to encapsulate your time, and you need to be willing to work with it. So many people are afraid of schedules. They’re afraid of calendars. They’re like, “I don’t want to be boxed in.” It’s really not about that. It’s actually the more we structure our time, there are so much more time and space for freedom.

Jayne Havens: When I was listening to you say this, first of all, you’re right. It’s so obvious, but it’s so important that we need to have a calendar. I completely and wholeheartedly agree with that. I use a Google Calendar. Then I also use Acuity to schedule my appointments that I have for work. People can hop onto my calendar for phone calls, Zoom calls, networking, meetings, whatever it may be. I’m really organized with my appointments that way.

One thing I was noticing is that what I’m not good at is scheduling in things that I need to get done. In addition, I have all these appointments, and those are calendared. That’s all super set up and ready to go. Actually, it’s funny. This morning, I was speaking to a bunch of parents at a preschool about their kid, their three-year-olds that don’t sleep. I was trying to get out of there. I was making small talk with the principal of the preschool. We were having a good time. I realized that I hadn’t outlined our conversation for today. Our conversation for today was on my calendar, but I didn’t calendar the action of preparing for the conversation for today.

I do that all the time. So, I think it’s important to have a calendar but also to have this practice of looking ahead — whether it’s one day, a couple of days — to see what’s coming up tomorrow that I need to be prepared for and do that today or whatever your advance notice is that you need. I’m not good at that.

Jaimee Campanella: Exactly. So, I’m going to say a couple of things on this, because so many people don’t plan for reality. Yes, you’re so good at the appointments you have. But what about the time it takes to get there? What about the time you need in between things?

How many times have I started a call with someone where, like, “Oh my god, I have to just hold on one second. I haven’t even gone to the bathroom in between meetings. I’ve been back to back meetings, or I’m starving. I just needed to eat a power bar.” So, we’re not really kind to ourselves when it comes to planning. We just put ourselves in these back to back meetings, but leaving no space for what we actually need, what we actually need to do.

So yes, calendaring, having a calendar is just the basic tool. But then, how to use it, how to schedule with kindness and awareness and intentionality is a whole different ballgame. The first step is having the tool, but you have to plan your time. This is part of that awareness, of where your time is going. So, when you look at your schedule, and you say I have this recording, okay. How much time do I need to actually be ready to just start that call at that time? I need to block time for that. I need to block time for everything. Otherwise, then you feel overwhelmed. You feel stressed because you feel like you don’t have time, or you’re cramming it in between things.

When you know, in between two meetings, I need to take a bathroom break. I need to go get a snack. Why not plan ahead? So, that you feel like when you look at your day, like, wow, I have time for everything I need to do. I’ve actually thought through what needs to happen for that to be a success.

Jayne Havens: What I think is really amazing about time blocking — I don’t do it. I should, but I don’t time block. People always ask me, “Do you time block?” No, I don’t. I should. But what’s amazing about time blocking — I saw this today. It’s so ironic that this has what happened right before our call today — is that I only had about 20 minutes. From the time I got home from this preschool presentation, I had about 20 minutes to quickly scarf down something to eat. After I ate five minutes, then I had 15 minutes before I was getting on another Zoom that was on my calendar. So, those were my 15 minutes that I had to outline this conversation in my head. Then I put it on paper.

If I had all the time in the world to do this activity, it would have taken me 45 minutes or an hour. Because I would be working on it, checking my phone, watching TV. Not actually being productive. But because I only had this 15-minute window, I was highly productive. I sat down. I didn’t mess around. I wasn’t looking at my phone. I wasn’t distracted. I got this entire outline done in 15 minutes, which never would have happened if I had an hour to do it. I would have taken an hour to do it. So, I think that actually being thoughtful about how you’re going to utilize your time ends up making you more efficient, right? It did for me today.

Jaimee Campanella: It does. But I will say, you said you scarfed down something.

Jayne Havens: I know, I did. I did.

Jaimee Campanella: So, to me, that’s not really being productive.

Jayne Havens: You’re right.

Jaimee Campanella: Yes, you’ve got a lot done in a crunched amount of time, but the idea — I picture this. You’re literally shoving food in your mouth, scarfing it — it’s how you describe it. To me, that’s not really kind to yourself.

Jayne Havens: You’re right.

Jaimee Campanella: Yes, so many people say, “I work so much better under pressure. I get so much more done.” But is that really how you want to live your life? Always feeling like you’re running against the clock? “Okay. I have 15 minutes. I’m going to get this done.” Sure, if you’re in a race. But we have to have momentum. We have to go slow and pace ourselves. Otherwise, you’re not enjoying that food. Your body can’t really digest it.

Jayne Havens: You’re right. I did not.

Jaimee Campanella: You’re just, like, you’re barely chewing. You’re barely tasting. You’re just literally scarfing it because you’re already thinking about, “I have to go run into that outline.” Crunch time, you’re rushing. How did you really feel when you started this call? Did you feel like, “I had space. I could breathe. I’m prepared?” Probably not.

Jayne Havens: No.

Jaimee Campanella: Right. I think when you plan, what I can see in that scenario is really, if you knew you had this commitment to speak at school, having your Acuity calendar be available to start booking people at 12 wasn’t realistic. You needed more than 20 minutes in between obligations. This is where I feel like we are setting ourselves up for stress, overwhelm, burden, rushing.

It’s just not as enjoyable as it could be if we were like wow, I just got to sip my tea and really prepare for this meeting. I feel really good. I’m not saying take an hour to do something that can take 10 minutes. I’m not about extending time unnecessarily. But if you have your time blocked, “Okay, I have 20 minutes to prepare. I have 20 minutes to do something else,” then you limit those distractions. Because you said you might get sucked into the phone or this or that. So, you learn to put boundaries on the time that you create. Because you’ve created it to do something, to accomplish something.

Jayne Havens: I love that. You’re spot on. I’m so glad. I love that we’re having this conversation. I’m being schooled on my own podcast. I love it. I love that because I’m legitimately learning. You’re 100% right that I didn’t enjoy my lunch. I didn’t at all. I didn’t even taste it. You’re 100% right.

Jaimee Campanella: I think that that’s what we’re doing to ourselves all the time. Lunch is just one example. I was rushing being with my kids. I was there. I did. It doesn’t matter if you didn’t enjoy it.

Jayne Havens: It’s so deep. It’s so heavy. Because when you really think about — just like you said, we do this all day long in some capacity. It’s exhausting, if you think about it.

Jaimee Campanella: Totally. You’re running on overdrive. You’re running in high speed. You’re running in, how much more can I fit into this moment?

Jayne Havens: All right. Well, I’m going to work on this.

Jaimee Campanella: Time blocking is just one practical way to set yourself up for success. Okay. I’m blocking out 20 minutes for lunch. I’m blocking out 20 minutes for preparation. You’ve got the first part down. You’ve got a great system for automating your schedule, and people can book with you. You’re eliminating the back and forth, which takes so much time. So, this is great. That’s a great tool.

For anyone who doesn’t already have that system in place, I highly, highly recommend it. It’s so old school to spend 15 emails back and forth trying to find a time. So, you put one system in place. Now you need to be mindful of all the other time around those appointments to be more intentional about it. That is the beauty of time. You can create it how you want it, what experience you want to have.

Jayne Havens: I think the reason people get into entrepreneurship in the first place is that they so badly want the freedom that this lifestyle affords, right? But then the realization sets in, that it actually takes time to grow a successful business. So, how are you helping your clients make peace with this reality?

Jaimee Campanella: Yeah, that is exactly what I do. I just want to say that that was my journey. I started my business because I wanted time freedom. I wanted to be present with my children. I wanted to be able to do all the things that brought me joy and find a successful business and be an entrepreneur.

Then I didn’t realize how much time it took to run a business, to manage a team, to do marketing, to do all those things, and the client work. I was taking on more and more and more, because it was also invigorating. We’re making more money. We become breadwinners for our family. There’s our passion. There’s drive, and we’re good at it. So, we take on more and more and more. That’s what happened for me. I scaled. I was making all this money. Then I slowly started to lose focus on why I started this to begin with. Because I wasn’t present with my kids anymore. I was checking my phone after the table. I was there, but I wasn’t there.

When I was working on my business. I was thinking feeling guilty for not spending time with my kids. I realized, what was I doing? There was no balance anymore. My business was running me. I wasn’t running my business, which is why I started. So, you have to reconcile that. You have to find what balance really means for you.

Balance has become so cliche, and everyone’s overusing it. So, I want to be clear. Balance is not 50:50. It’s not that scale that you visualize where the weight is equal on both sides. For me, balance looks different at different times of the year. For example, in the summer, I only want to be spending 40% of my time on my business. I want to be 60% available for my family.

The same happens around the holidays. December — I want to spend more time with my family, less on my business. Whereas in the fall, I’m like, “Okay. Kids, you’re in school.” 20% with the kids and 80% on my business.

So you have to first decide how do you want to be spending your time? How much time do you want to be dedicating to the things that are important to you? Then you decide what does that balance look like. That has to be defined. Otherwise, it just feels like all for one. All all your attention has to go into one, and not to the other.

So, you have to be clear about what your goals are, how much time you want to be allocating to the different things in your life. Then, of course, you create the schedule. You create the structure and the boundaries to protect it. The thing is, with us, as entrepreneurs, it’s our work. It’s our business. So, we dedicate so much to it. We’re our own bosses. We forget that we have control of how much or how little we can give to it. That’s why I said you become working for your business versus your business working for you.

You have to stay in touch with why you created this lifestyle. Then protect the boundaries of it, knowing that there’ll be times where you ebb and flow. You give more and you give less. But is the experience the same across all seasons?

Jayne Havens: That’s something I’m personally really trying to lean into in my own life right now. Because my whole why for getting started in sleep consulting was exactly as you described. I didn’t want to go back to work in the traditional sense. I didn’t want to go to the office. I didn’t want to put my kids in daycare or leave them with a nanny. I wanted to be there every single moment.

But then, as my business grew — just like you described — I saw myself losing those precious moments with them because I was distracted by my business. In the past, I would say, six months to a year, I’ve really been working on being more intentional. As you said, sometimes my life is all or almost all about my business. Then other times, I’m really putting it on pause.

My last couple vacations, trips with my kids, I’ve scheduled it so that I don’t really have any clients. Or if I do, I’m wrapping up with them, or we’re on the tail end rather than just getting started. So, it’s less intense. I’m really being mindful about what it looks like to work my business in various stages of the year, which is the beauty of entrepreneurship.

I think it also is worth saying out loud that there’s a price you pay for that. I just went away on an eight-day trip to Israel with 22 other women. It was the most magical, incredible experience that I’ve had in a really long time. I also turned away business for two weeks leading up to that, so that I could have that magical experience.

I had to make peace with the fact that my income was going to look different that month, because I was choosing my life over the dollars in my bank account. That was a temporary choice. Then you get back to life, and you get back to business. You ramp it back up again. I think it takes a certain amount of experience and years in any business to get to a point where you can do that.

I think what’s really hard is, for most of the people listening to this, I think a lot of people who listen to this podcast are either new in the field of sleep consulting, or they’re thinking about becoming a sleep consultants. So, when they hear us talking about how we’re managing our businesses several years in, it looks different than when someone’s first getting started.

Because when I first got started, I was working on vacation. I was. Because it felt too scary to turn away a client. When I had somebody that wanted to work with me, I didn’t want to say no. I think it’s hard in the beginning. I don’t know. I guess, I want to hear your thoughts on that. Should I have been better in the beginning about setting boundaries from the very beginning, or is that just part of entrepreneurship? Nobody really talks about it, but it’s just a reality.

Jaimee Campanella: It’s a great question. I do believe in setting those boundaries from the beginning. Because then, you’re really setting yourself up for success. Like in my own story. I didn’t do that. I burned. I was exhausted, and I crashed. It wasn’t sustainable. I was about to throw the towel in.

So, in hindsight, if I was more conscious of the boundaries, I would have enjoyed the vacations more with my family. I literally think back to some of those times. I literally remember the clients I was talking to more than the experiences I probably should have been having with my family or with myself.

I always feel that if we can set ourselves up for success in a mindful way, that is better. I think when anyone gets started on something and they’re seeing the success and the money, it’s invigorating, we can get caught up in that.

We have financial goals we need to meet. There are practicalities of it. But if we’re not practical about how much time we have to accomplish those things, it just burns. It doesn’t mean anything after a while. So, if you say, “I have this amount of time to dedicate to my business,” then you have to prioritize the work in your business. You plan it.

You might say, “For my first year business, I’m not going to plan a vacation.” That’s okay. That’s practical. You’re making a conscious choice. “In year three or year two, we’re going to take two family vacations,” whatever it looks like. Because you do want to go into this, knowing realistically what the work is entailing. What is required of my time to start a successful business? Then be clear how much time you want to dedicate to it.

So many people come to me and they say, “I want to be having this experience. I want to be doing this or doing that.” They have these goals. “I want to be exercising. I want to be scaling my business,” whatever it looks like. Then I say, “Okay. Well, what did you actually do this week?” It’s never in alignment, and you wonder why we get frustrated. We wonder why we feel misalignment. It’s because we have these expectations or things we want to experience, but we’re not shaping our time to match that.

When you’re starting a business, be clear. How much are you wanting to give to it? You have to start by the other things. How much time do you want to be available for your family? How much time do you want to have for your personal goals? You have to start with those first. Then you’ll have a realistic view.

If I want to exercise every morning, if I want to be there when my kids get home from school, if I want to be there for family dinner, whatever it is, you see what’s left in between. Okay. Well, realistically, I have four hours a day for work. So, you have to create a business plan structure that equals four hours of work.

What does that mean? If I need an hour for administration, I need an hour for market, I have two hours for client work. I can take on one client a week. Whatever it is. Digging into it, double clicking into the time gives you the reality. If you could start your business with that reality check, I think you’re going to enjoy the process a lot more.

Jayne Havens: That’s so brilliant. Nobody’s doing that. Very few people are doing that. I think everybody’s flying by the seat of their pants. It feels that way to me. Nobody’s doing it.

Jaimee Campanella: I’m just taking on more and more and more. Then I don’t have time to exercise. I don’t have time for this. I don’t have time. Well, that’s a choice people. This is a choice you’re making. So, it’s all about how you are setting yourself up for this.

Jayne Havens: To me, when I listened to you talk about it, your voice is so soothing. It almost sounds like a yoga practice. This is a lifestyle change. This is a practice. This is not something that you just do for one day, and then you’re cured. This is like you’re constantly working on. It’s something you have to maintain.

Jaimee Campanella: Right. That’ why I said this is not—

Jayne Havens: I can be organized and on top of myself for a couple days. Then it’s out the window.

Jaimee Campanella: When you want to run a business and you want to have an experience of balance, or you want to have experience of calm, joy, gratitude, then you have to set yourself up for this. This is a long-term plan. This is not a quick fix. This is not a quick marathon. This is the lifestyle you’re choosing. Running a business takes time and effort. You’re in it for the long haul.

Jayne Havens: Yeah, I’m really glad to hear you say that. One thing that I come up against all the time, speaking with either sleep consultants that are just getting started or people who are interested in getting into this line of work, is everybody has a big grand plan and goal.

People come to me, and they hate their day job. They want to be a full-time sleep consultant. Well, when you hate your day job but you make six figures, you’re not going to transition from a six-figure income and your day job to a six-figure income as an entrepreneur in three to six months. That’s going to take a year, a couple of years, many years. You didn’t get to that six-figure income in your day job straight out of college, right? That took time. That took experience and climbing the ladder.

I’m a firm believer that it can all happen way faster when you’re driving the ship yourself. So, entrepreneurship is a beautiful, beautiful thing. But none of this happens overnight. It takes, as you said, time. It takes time. We need to manage our own expectations around, as you said, the amount of time that we have to put into something, and then also what we’re going to get out of that. What sort of results can you expect from spending four hours a day or whatever it is on growing something from scratch? Easier said than done, but I’m constantly reminding people of that. When I think about — sorry, go ahead.

Jaimee Campanella: No, please.

Jayne Havens: When I think about time with regard to the entrepreneurial journey, I think about it in two ways. One, we’re all busy. Everything takes time. We need to figure out how to allocate that time. Then two, sometimes we’re using time as an excuse to avoid things that feel hard.

Do you have any thoughts on how we can check in with ourselves so that we can be more real about which category we’re falling into? Is our issue that we really don’t have the time, and we need to allocate that time? Or is our issue that we’re using time as an excuse to not being productive?

Jaimee Campanella: I do find that a lot of people are using time as an excuse. Because really, what that shows me and a lot of the people who come to me, when we start working together, is they’re not taking responsibility for their time. Essentially, not taking responsibility for our life. Because our life is time. Really think about that. Our life is just based on time. That’s the only way our life is defined. It’s by time — the time we live, the time we’re alive, the time we’re breathing, the experiences that we’re having.

So often, we talk about time as if it’s something that’s being done to us. People say, like you mentioned, that they wish they had more time. They don’t have enough time. They ran out of time. They’re constantly late. They forgot to do this, because they didn’t have time. Those are all excuses. These are the common beliefs that I hear a lot.

In these statements, it’s saying, time is doing something to me. Time is against me, or time is out to get me. Time is never on my side. We’re just blaming time. We’re acting like victims of time. This was a pivotal point for me, because I heard myself saying all those things, too. I realized I was not taking control of my time. I was not taking responsibility for my choices. Because everything we do with our time is a choice, unless you’re being forced to do something with your time — which is very unlikely. It’s all choices.

So, we have to be conscious about how we spend our time and take responsibility for our time. It’s ‘I get to’ not ‘I have to.’ I really want to land that, because we use time as the excuse for why we’re not getting things done. Some things may feel out of our control, but 99% of our day is in our control.

How to shift away from making time an excuse, and making time your friend? I have this precious gift of time. How am I using it today? Life is short. People say that all the time. Time is flying by. How am I getting back in control of my time, the experience that time is mine? I’m choosing to do something amazing with it. Even if it’s sitting here by myself, I’m doing something for myself. That’s amazing. If it’s spending time with my children, that’s amazing. If I’m working on my business — whatever it is, it’s a choice. That is where I want to get people back into their power — time power. Time is yours.

Jayne Havens: Yeah, it’s so powerful. What about time is like a limiting belief? Because I feel like time, as you said, we all have the time. You said it’s an excuse. But an excuse for what? An excuse that you’re scared to do whatever, that you’re not going to use your time wisely, that you’re not going to achieve whatever it is that you want to achieve during that time. Is it easier to just not spend the time on something if you’re worried that spending the time on whatever you’re working on is not going to get done to your liking? I feel like it’s so loaded.

Jaimee Campanella: Yeah, we can go 100 different ways with this. If you continually speak about time as something negative, you’re really just resisting some of the realities of what you have to do. If someone say, “I keep putting off that project because it’s so hard,” well, the reality is things in life are hard. Sometimes they’re challenging, but you have to show up for yourself to get it done.

If you constantly let yourself off the hook and make excuses, you’re not holding yourself accountable. You’re not really building a good relationship with yourself, either. Because you’re constantly cycling through disappointment and letdown. Like I always say, you can create the calendar or the schedule of your dreams, but only you are going show up for yourself. Only you know. No one else knows if you didn’t show up to do X, Y, or Z.

But what kind of trust are you building in yourself if you constantly — in your good conscious planning ahead mind — say, “This is what I want to be doing. This is how I want to be spending my time.” You make those conscious choices. You make a plan for it. But then, you don’t show up for it, or you talk yourself out of it to say I’ll do that later. I’m too tired. Oh, it’s been a busy day. Whatever excuse you make up for it, because you don’t want to deal with it, that’s just like our resistance. But you have to lean into that. You have to power through it. You have to build a good relationship with yourself and time, so that when you make a commitment to yourself or to other people, you come through on it. Otherwise, you’re just perpetuating the feeling of disorganization and lack of focus.

So, you mentioned mindset. The way you speak about time — treat time, how you spend your time, how you enjoy your time, and how you attract time — this is the first shift you have to make to change your relationship with it. I can give you a practical tool or something you can exercise. You can do it like a day.

Jayne Havens: Yeah, let’s do it.

Jaimee Campanella: One of the most immediate changes you can make to change your relationship with time or shift into that seat of responsibility versus excuse is your language around time. If you can stop yourself from saying, “I don’t have time,” this would be a huge shift. Because when you constantly tell people you don’t have time to do something, or you tell yourself, I don’t have time to do that, you’re just not taking responsibility for how you use your hours in the day.

Language shapes the way we think and we feel and how we interact with the world. Simply, to stop saying the statement, “I don’t have time,” is a powerful action. Because the more we say it — I don’t have time. I’m too tired. I’m too busy — the more we believe it. Then you’re constantly living in that state of time scarcity. It’s never enough.

We talk about this a lot when it comes to money and money abundance, but we don’t talk about it when it comes to time. It’s the same concept. If we constantly say you don’t have enough time, you will constantly feel like you don’t have enough time. So, stop saying I don’t have time is one simple thing. People will say, “Okay. Well, then what should I say instead?” You can say it’s not a priority. You can say no. You can say I’d love to do that, but I’d like to revisit that next month. You can say the truth.

Jayne Havens: I love that. Because when you were saying stop saying I don’t have time, I swear, I was thinking I’m going to ask her what are we supposed to say instead. Then you said it. But I didn’t want to ask you because it sounds like, I don’t know what the heck could we say. What do you say instead of that? But you’re spot on. The response is, I’m not going to prioritize that. That’s the truth. You’re speaking the truth.

Jaimee Campanella: Yes, it’s not just I’m not going to use it for that.

Jayne Havens: Yeah, that’s not a priority for me right now. Really honest.

Jaimee Campanella: I tell you, if you have to say that to yourself, it’s the best check and balance system. Let’s say, I say, well, what do you feel like you don’t have time for? Everyone was, “I don’t have time to exercise, or do yoga, or meditate, or go on a date. Whatever it is. What would be one for you?

Jayne Havens: For me, exercise?

Jaimee Campanella: Okay. So, istead of saying I don’t have time, try saying it’s not a priority.

Jayne Havens: It’s not a priority, which it’s clearly not.

Jaimee Campanella: Aha. To say to yourself, something I think I don’t have time for is exercise. Okay. Exercise is not a priority in my life. Bullshit. You know that it is. So, that is a quick way to check and balance. If I can’t say that it’s not a priority and believe it and know that that’s true, well, there’s your answer. You have to make time for it.

So, stop saying I don’t have time for it. Make time for it. Find a way to prioritize that in your day. Start with two minutes. Go for a walk. I’m not saying everything has to be grandiose, where you go to the gym for an hour and a half every day. But if something is genuinely a priority, then we do need to make the time for it.

Jayne Havens: That’s really brilliant. Let’s leave it at that. I’d love to leave everybody with a takeaway that they can just — we’re done with this conversation. Now you know what to do. So, before we wrap up, tell everybody where they can find you. If they want to learn more from you, with you, alongside you, share all the goods — your website, social media, whatever you want to share.

Jaimee Campanella: Sure, yeah, all of it. My website is jaimeecampanella.com. You can go there to learn more about my Time Power programs, where I do work with mom entrepreneurs one-on-one to help them change their relationship with time through mindset shifts, and very practical strategies and tools.

If you are looking for some inspiration and tips, you can follow me on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube at @jaimeecampanellaco. We’re on LinkedIn. I have some great tools available. I have a Family Calendar product, which you can also check out on my websites. I have some great free resources as well. I have a training, 3 Shifts to Take Control of Your Time, also available on my website.

I have an online course which is launching on December 1, which is practical tools, shift your relationship with time, physical sensations, visualizations. It’s a holistic approach to changing your mindset with time, and looking at it from physically, mentally, intellectually and in all the different levels for a new understanding. So, lots of great things out there. Go to my website and follow me. I hope to connect with you all in many different ways.

Jayne Havens: Thank you so much for sharing all of your knowledge and expertise with us today. I really appreciate it.

Jaimee Campanella: Thank you for having me.

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