Nurture Nap Network Retreat 2026 Recap
Nurture Nap Network Retreat 2026 Recap
One of the biggest lessons from this year’s Nurture Nap Network Retreat had nothing to do with marketing, networking, or communication.
It was the reminder that entrepreneurship was never meant to be done alone.
When you spend your days working from home, supporting clients through a screen, and building a business that most of the people around you don’t fully understand, it’s easy to start believing you’re the only one figuring it out as you go.
Then you put 24 people in a room who do understand.
Suddenly, the things that hard don’t feel quite so impossible anymore. You leave with fresh ideas, renewed confidence, and the reminder that you’re surrounded by people who genuinely want to see you succeed.
My favorite moments weren’t necessarily the sessions themselves. They were the conversations over coffee before the day began. The hugs between people meeting in person after years of supporting one another online. Watching experienced business owners openly share what was working in their businesses, knowing there was enough success to go around.
That’s the kind of community I always hoped to build.
In this episode, Kerri and I reflect on everything we took away from our second annual retreat, but more than anything, we talk about the power of genuine connection, and why getting into a room with people who truly understand your journey can change the way you see your business.
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Transcript:
Intro: Welcome to Becoming a Sleep Consultant! I’m your host Jayne Havens, a certified sleep consultant and founder of both Snooze Fest by Jayne Havens and Center for Pediatric Sleep Management.
On this podcast, I’ll be discussing the business side of sleep consulting. You’ll have an insider’s view on launching, growing, and even scaling a sleep consulting business. This is not a podcast about sleep training. This is a podcast about business building and entrepreneurship.
Jayne Havens: Hi everyone, and welcome back to the Becoming a Sleep Consultant podcast. Today, I’m so excited to be joined by my business BFF, Kerri Nachlas, as we recap our second annual Nurture Nap Network Retreat. We just got home from an incredible long weekend in Denver, where we spent a few days learning, connecting, laughing lots, and having some really meaningful conversations with an amazing group of sleep consultants and parent coaches.
We both thought it would be really fun to record a podcast episode to reflect on what made this retreat really unique, what we learned right alongside our attendees, and some of our favorite moments from the weekend. We’ll also share a little bit about what’s next. We haven’t quite decided yet whether we’ll be back next summer or if we’re going to take a year to regroup, dream a little bigger, and plan something really special for 2028. Either way, this weekend reminded us why we love bringing this community together, and we can’t wait to share it all with you.
So, with that being said, Kerri, let’s get into it. What was your first impression when everyone started arriving?
Kerri Nachlas: I was totally excited. I was so ready to see everyone. I was looking forward to seeing how businesses had grown. I was excited to connect again. I was really excited to make some connections for some of the attendees that I knew were going to be able to create a business bestie relationship or maybe even just a strategic alliance where they’re good at something, they’re good at something else, and together they make an amazing team. Things like that. So I was super pumped to start seeing people arrive, having those conversations in the hallway, meeting people in the lobby. It was just all high energy, some really great times.
Jayne Havens: And you’re always the one that’s more chipper and enthusiastic and positive. I, If I’m being totally transparent, was feeling a little bit Negative Nelly headed into the retreat. And this is just so typical of you and I. Like, you’re always the positive, empowerment one, and I’m the, “What? Whatever.” It’s true. But I was feeling a little down in the dumps just because we had a smaller group this year. I was feeling like last year, we had such a big crowd. We had 34 or 35 people, and this year we were down in the low to mid-20s. I was just a little disappointed that we didn’t have a bigger group register.
But once we got to the reception Thursday night at True Food Kitchen, all of those feelings that I was having totally melted away. I immediately realized that we had the right 24 people. Everybody was there excited to learn, excited to grow, excited to connect. I think about half of our attendees, maybe a little less than half, had been at the retreat last year, so they were busy hugging old friends and catching up and reconnecting. It was so fun to see people actually recognize each other and know each other, not just from the internet but from real life. They had already forged these friendships and relationships.
And then I think because we had a smaller group, for those who were new, who hadn’t attended last year, it was sort of easier and less overwhelming for them to just jump right in and be a part of the pack. It ended up being such a blessing, and I was mad at myself for being so worried about that because it was a total non-issue.
Kerri Nachlas: It was, but it was a valid point. I mean, we did have those conversations. We were a little nervous, but I think that the right people showed up. The welcome reception just blew my mind, and after that it just got better and better every day.
Jayne Havens: So the next morning, before our official conference began, we invited our attendees to meet us at Starbucks just for casual coffee and conversation. We had done this last year. This year, I think literally almost every single person came, right? I think you were expecting to have five or six people show up at Starbucks, and it was like 24 people crowded around a table.
Kerri Nachlas: Right.
Jayne Havens: That was a highlight for me because we were able to kick off conversations in a really casual, informal way. But I think it set the tone and the energy for what was to happen in the conference room. You totally agree?
Kerri Nachlas: I totally agree. I was so shocked when that many showed up because that was their time also to walk or work out or have some quiet time, which they actually had already done by the time we had our Starbucks meet-up. But again, like you, I was expecting five or six people, and when they— Literally, Friday morning I looked around, I was like, “Everybody is here, and we’re just going to walk over to the hotel in 30 minutes and start our day together again.” So it was absolutely wonderful. I loved it.
Jayne Havens: So the theme of this year’s retreat was communication. That’s really what this was all about. I was honestly kind of proud of us for structuring the content so well, if I don’t say so myself. We really were very organized in the way that we approached this. We did a training first on how you communicate in your marketing and your networking. Then we took it to what does communication look like on a discovery call with parents? Then it was how do we actually communicate through those tough moments when we’re coaching? Right? I was really sort of pleased with the way that that all worked out.
What were your favorite moments? What were your favorite aha moments that came up in those conversations?
Kerri Nachlas: So one of my favorite things was that you and I had intentionally decided before we even started that we were going to include the audience a lot. We wanted more of an interactive experience so that we could hear some of their aha moments, some of their sound bites that work well for their businesses when they’re communicating through the tough times or through the easy times.
I loved that we intentionally opened the mic to be inclusive of so many amazing thought processes because I learned a lot, and I think that everybody else felt very seen and heard as well. Because I do feel like when you show up at something like this, you are on track with your business, or at least getting on track, and you’re running a business like a business.
To have those people speaking into the room as well, it was a great energy, and I loved being interactive with everybody. I loved that they were very thoughtful with one another and added to what one of them had just said, or they showed a different version of it. I really could have been taking notes myself because it was so much information.
Jayne Havens: That’s how I felt. I felt like you and I were standing at the front of the room with the intention of teaching and leading the conversation, which we did.
Kerri Nachlas: Absolutely.
Jayne Havens: We absolutely did.
Kerri Nachlas: Right.
Jayne Havens: But I 100% agree. You and I both learned so much in those conversations. When you were talking about sound bites, I keep thinking about closing the loop, right? We talked about that over and over and over again. That was one of our— all of our big takeaways was closing the loop in these conversations.
A lot of the time, especially with networking and connecting with various professionals in adjacent fields, it’s easy enough to do the outreach. It’s easy enough to have that initial conversation. But how do we bring it back around? How do we close the loop, or how do we continue the loop so that these conversations mature and grow and lead to something else? That was one of my big takeaways. I really felt like we were teaching the room and then we were also learning from each other, and then we were also learning from people in the audience, which was just huge for me.
Kerri Nachlas: I used “closing the loop.” I used it with my husband the other day.
Jayne Havens: Yeah, I bet you did.
Kerri Nachlas: I know. I was like, “We need to close this loop.” And he’s like, “Okay, what are we talking about?” And so I told him what we needed to talk about. It was just a calendar thing. So we closed the loop on the calendar and got the dates on the calendar. It was perfect. That’s such a perfect way to say it.
Jayne Havens: One of the highlights for me—you know, you and I were up at the front of the room for most of the weekend. Even if the conversation was really collaborative, we were sort of running the show. My favorite part of the weekend was when we invited four expert sleep consultants to be on an expert panel. We basically turned the room over to them and held space for anybody to ask any question to these four women who were sitting front and center. I think it was supposed to be an hour or an hour and a half, and we ended up going like two hours. Everybody wanted more from these four ladies, myself included.
My biggest takeaway from that portion of the event was that there are just so many different ways to run a successful business. All four of them were doing it really differently. They were using their own language, their own verbiage, their own coaching strategies. Some of them were doing in-person, some of them were doing virtual, some of them had memberships, some of them didn’t. It just was` so wild to see how everybody’s businesses had evolved to suit their own lifestyle and their own career goals. That was just my favorite thing.
Kerri Nachlas: It’s so my favorite. And the thing is, there are a couple of things I learned during that session that I’m going to implement into my own business. I mean, I feel like I have a successful business, but a successful business owner is always looking for new ideas. Those ladies had them.
I remember you and I were sitting on the side of the room. When you looked at me, you’re like, “We’re losers.” I was like, “I know.” Because we felt like losers. We were like, “Look at all this stuff they’re doing. They’re so successful. They are building sleep and parent coaching empires.” And it’s like, you and I were cracking up. I mean, I took some of that stuff away, and it’s on my to-do list to put in place because I think it’s phenomenal. The ideas, the energy behind it, the communication with clients—it’s just all right there. I was very happy with it.
Jayne Havens: I also thought it was really cool to see two of those ladies who were at our retreat last year. And to see them come back a little bit more confident, a little bit more poised, and to sit in the front of the room and sort of hold that leadership position and feel really confident that they deserve to be there, I thought that was really exciting to watch. Because if I think back to those two ladies last year, they both had successful businesses last year, but I don’t know that they had fully stepped into this leadership mindset, this like “I’m top dog” mindset that they were in this year. That was really, really exciting to see that transformation from them.
Kerri Nachlas: Absolutely. I think they showed up like that. Like you knew that as soon as they opened their mouths, they were more in a teaching mode almost. They had information to share, which I loved seeing, that it was so forthcoming and that they were so willing to share it and that it was like they wanted to empower everybody around them with their success. I will embrace that every day, all day because I’m a huge fan of “we rise by lifting others.” Those ladies stepped right into it.
Jayne Havens: And you know, I think in both of our communities, in your parent coach certification course and inside of Center for Pediatric Sleep Management, you and I both work tirelessly every single day to really foster communities of collaboration and support. There’s no gatekeeping. Every single one of us is there to help one another. And really, I think we raised them right. They showed up. They were not gatekeeping. They were there to share everything they had learned along the way and with just—
Kerri Nachlas: Everything. With no limits.
Jayne Havens: No holdbacks.
Kerri Nachlas: Yes.
Jayne Havens: No limits, no holdbacks.
Kerri Nachlas: That is my jam. When I see other people doing it, I’m like, “Yes.” Because there is enough business for everyone. And to know that you can share what you’re doing really, really well and let someone else take it and do it really well in their own way is, I think, the most important thing in becoming a business owner and a leader in the industry. Those ladies are becoming leaders in the industry, which I love.
Jayne Havens: So each afternoon, we trickled down to the lobby after our main sessions in the conference room and shared a glass of wine together as a community. What I loved most about those conversations is that it really seemed to be more about getting to know each other a little bit more on a personal level than on a sleep consulting or parent coaching level.
Kerri Nachlas: Yeah.
Jayne Havens: I just really enjoyed that. I learned things about everyone’s families. I learned things about their juggle—like how they’re navigating both work and parenting and managing their homes or maybe even other careers that they have. I just really loved that. I walked away feeling like I had made new friends and that I know these people on a much deeper level.
Kerri Nachlas: I agree. We got to meet a couple of husbands. We got to meet a couple of children. Because they made it a family vacation. But I will tell you, it occurred to me one day when we were sitting there one night, these women come for our conference, which has a morning session and an afternoon session. But then I realized they’re also showing up—all of them—for the Starbucks on their own. Then they’re also all staying for the happy hour on their own.
Anybody could leave at any point. Nobody was required to attend these things. Everybody showed up so big and so intentionally for literally everything we had on the calendar because they wanted to be together, which I also feel— I think we had that last year as well, but I think I felt it even more in this smaller group on some level, which I thought was beautiful. They wanted to continue to connect and be a part of what each of them were doing, which I thought was fantastic.
Jayne Havens: As somebody who’s been to other conferences, both big and small, I think that’s a really important point to bring up. I found myself hiding in my room at plenty of conferences over the years because I just was over-talked. I was over-shared. I was exhausted mentally and emotionally from just having so many conversations. I really felt like this group, they just wanted to soak up every single minute with each other. And you’re right. That is very unique and very special.
Kerri Nachlas: Well, I’ve been in that same situation that you were just talking about with different conferences. But also, I’m a pretty outgoing person. I literally can talk to anybody at any point. But there are some conferences that are hard to crack the code on with the community. And if you’re not part of the community, it’s hard to find your place and get your footing.
This conference did not have that, which I absolutely loved. Everybody embraced whoever walked in the door. Everybody was very open to connecting with anybody at their table. That is hard to come by too. Communities can be tight-knit and close-knit, and sometimes that’s a detriment. This one is tight-knit and close-knit but is also so welcoming to anybody who’s in the room, which again fills my heart.
Jayne Havens: And the conversations on some level seemed so no big deal.
Kerri Nachlas: Right.
Jayne Havens: You know, one of my favorite conversations I had with two women were about just how I manage bedtime in my own home with my own kids while also supporting families. That was one of my favorite conversations. Because I feel like the season of life that many of these women are in, they have young kids at home, they want to be present at bedtime for their own children, and yet their clients are paying them a lot of money to support them during these hours.
And so what does that look like? How do we model what we want our clients to be doing in their home, which is to put down their phone and connect with their child and really prioritize bedtime, if we’re having trouble doing that ourselves? Right? And so those were some of my favorite conversations.
I was able to tell them what it looked like for me when my kids were younger and how that evolves now that my kids are almost 10 and almost 14. That it’s a season, and it evolves as your business evolves. It was just a great feeling to be able to connect with them on the level like I’ve been there. I’ve experienced that dynamic and struggle in my own home, and now I’m on the other side of that.
Kerri Nachlas: Right. Some of my favorite conversations were actually about people who were realizing that they could take their business into a bigger space or into a different direction by adding parent coaching. They wanted to know what that looked like. They wanted to know what that felt like and what it would actually do for their business.
Again, because I love to empower women and because parent coaching is such a natural progression of sleep consulting—they marry so well together—those conversations were some of my favorites. Because they started seeing where their business could grow in different directions. They started seeing how they could support their clients differently, or better even, on some level. Letting them kind of get those aha moments about, “You’re a sleep consultant, but it doesn’t have to stop here,” I loved. Because I think sometimes people want to know what’s my next step. Having those conversations of, “This is a great next step,” really, that was like a big deal for me. I love those.
Jayne Havens: I really enjoyed those conversations too because I was able to literally share the evolution of my own business, right?
Kerri Nachlas: Yes.
Jayne Havens: I was able to share what it looked like for me to support parents who have 2-, 3-, 4-, or 5-year-olds prior to having this knowledge around what it looks like to address concerns in that 24-hour new cycle, not just at bedtime, and how my process has evolved and shifted now that I have these additional tools and all of this new verbiage that I share with the families that I support. And so I love that I was sort of a living, breathing case study for you in that regard.
Kerri Nachlas: Yeah, you were so gracious with that information. You wanted them to feel the shift in the way that you coach, and I loved that because I think it’s a big deal. I think it’s very empowering to know that you have more verbiage, you have more tools. Because your sleep consulting course is so comprehensive. This is just a natural next step for those older kids that are not just about sleep. They know how to sleep.
Jayne Havens: Let’s pivot to talk about Bubbe and Sarah, the two MVPs of the weekend. So Bubbe is my mom, and Sarah is your daughter—for those listening who were not at the retreat.
Last year, they very clearly made their mark on everybody. They were the stars of the show. I don’t think you and I had any idea that it would play out this way. I mean, I know that Sarah is a big personality. I know that my mom is also a big personality. But we really just brought them to be our extra set of hands, right? We brought them for logistical reasons. We wanted them to man the registration table so that we didn’t have to. We wanted them to be able to just go down to the conference room a little early to make sure everything was ready if we were busy with attendees at Starbucks. Literally, we brought them for logistical reasons, and they ended up being—
Kerri Nachlas: Right. It turned into so much more.
Jayne Havens: It turned into so much more. They ended up being sort of like the MCs of the weekend.
Kerri Nachlas: They’re the best.
Jayne Havens: I love that my mom was walking through the hallway of the hotel and got recognized by somebody who was there last year. She texted me and she’s like, “I was recognized. I think I’m a celebrity.” I just love that everybody was so excited for Bubbe to be back and for Sarah to be back. It really just brought I think an energy of excitement and also just family, right? The fact that our family was there supporting our businesses, I think, brought a certain element to the weekend where people really saw, “Okay, I can have a successful business and be very family-oriented at the same time.”
Kerri Nachlas: Right. And I think that they speak into our businesses so much that they could also share something that you and I may not have thought of as being important or being relevant to what we were talking about. They piped right up and said, “Oh, but…” and they brought it into the conversation, which were some really great points and some really great ways to look at some of the things we teach that we were not bringing to the table because it wasn’t occurring to us, but they did bring it to the table.
And yes, their energy and their shenanigans and all of their cute little funny things they do—they are definitely a dynamic duo, and they do it very well together. They’re like two little peas in a pod. Sarah told me the other day, she was like, “I miss talking to Bubbe.” I was like, “Well, you have her phone number.
Jayne Havens: You can call her. She would love to talk. I loved that my mom was very quick to raise her hand and join in on the conversation. My mom has been through my course. She actually is a certified sleep consultant. She did that during COVID because she wanted to help me with my business, and she felt like she couldn’t really help me unless she really understood what I was doing. So she took it upon herself to go through the course. And so I loved that.
She asked great questions. She knows what she’s talking about. She listens to me on the phone all the time. And so they really were sort of four extra eyes and ears to help keep the conversation flowing, keep it interesting, as you said, ask questions that maybe you and I weren’t thinking that we should be addressing, certain things. They thought of things that we didn’t and just kept it interesting.
Kerri Nachlas: And they kept us on track with the raffles. I mean, we would have totally forgotten half of those raffles, but they were like, “Ding, ding, ding, ding—raffle time.” That was really important too. Because, again, we can only show up as our best versions when we don’t have to worry about everything. They took care of so much of the details that we could really just show up as ourselves and do what we needed to do, which I loved.
Jayne Havens: What was your biggest takeaway of the whole weekend? Can you pinpoint one thing in particular?
Kerri Nachlas: Well, yes. Okay, so my biggest takeaway of this weekend is that everybody is always kind of looking for the secret sauce or that one thing that they may be missing or that they haven’t heard of yet to make their business work.
What I came away with is: this business is built in so many different ways and in so many different spaces with different personalities and different coaching styles and different supporting documents and different onboarding processes. And everything, literally every detail can have 100 ways for people to do it. But the people that are successful are the people that show up consistently, the people that are not treating it like a hobby. I mean, I’m guilty of that myself sometimes where it’s like I will treat it like a hobby for a few days, but then I have to get back on board and know that I have a job to do.
That’s my aha moment. Especially after the panel and all of the different ways we heard people talking about their businesses, I’m like, this is not a secret sauce. This is not a recipe for success. Your recipe for success is finding what resonates with you and then doing it over and over again—honing in on your verbiage, honing in on your onboarding session, your communication to get your name out there. That was my takeaway. It was just all there. Every single conversation we had was how different everybody is but how successful you can be in all those different ways.
Jayne Havens: Yeah, really well said. I think your takeaway is better than my takeaway, so I’m inclined to leave it at that.
Kerri Nachlas: What’s yours? No, give me yours.
Jayne Havens: Like, “Wow! That was really good. I don’t even want to follow up with that.”
So my major takeaway is just the value of in-person connection. That was my major takeaway. These are people, some of whom I’ve known for six-plus years, and I had never met them in person before. I had never had the opportunity to give them a hug, to share a face-to-face smile.
Kerri Nachlas: Right. That’s a game changer.
Jayne Havens: Such a game changer. I mean, these are people who I know and love from the internet, and I didn’t yet have the opportunity to know and love them in real, face-to-face, in-person connection. What a game changer. I just think it’s so important when you’re growing a virtual service-based business to integrate in-person work in some capacity into your day-to-day—whether that’s in your networking, whether that’s going to retreats, whether that’s visiting a family in person every now and then. It can look a million different ways, but I think that what I got out of that weekend was just a reminder of how important it is to connect on a higher level.
I’m pretty good at networking and connecting online. That’s something I’m very comfortable with. I think I’m also comfortable with it in person. But because I’m so comfortable with it online, I sometimes don’t make the effort to do these things in person. It really just lit a fire under me to maintain in-person connections and to continue to go to retreats like this and continue to lead ours. I just think what everybody got out of three and a half days in Denver is so much more than anything that they could have gotten out of a virtual event of any kind.
Kerri Nachlas: I agree. I think that entrepreneurship—virtual entrepreneurship—is very lonely. Well, entrepreneurship itself can be very lonely, but the virtual portion adds another element of loneliness or isolation on some level. Or you think that everybody else is out there doing an amazing job and you’re the only one that’s not. There are just so many misconceptions that come with the kind of entrepreneurship that virtual offers.
However, I don’t know if you saw, but when I saw Val and Emily see each other for the first time in person, I got tears in my eyes because they were so happy to finally meet and be together. I thought that was the sweetest thing ever. Because they’ve been business besties online and on the phone but to actually meet in person gave me goosebumps for them.
Jayne Havens: I wish you could see my goosebumps right now. I literally have the goosebumps right now as I’m listening.
Kerri Nachlas: It was amazing. That’s the power of this type of event where you get to go and be hugged and be a part of it. You get to be built up, spoken into, and then you also get to speak into other people. It’s everything that I think we, as humans, need to fill our cup and keep us going.
Jayne Havens: Yeah, the Val and Emily connection is a really special one. For those listening, they are two CPSM grads who connected on a thread inside of our community Facebook group, I think a year or so ago at this point.
I had created this thread giving people an opportunity to connect with their future business bestie. I think I made the suggestion that they would be a good fit. They met, started chatting either in DMs or text messaging—I’m not sure—and their relationship totally blossomed. They’ve been a huge support system for one another ever since. And yes, that moment where they got to actually meet each other in person, give the biggest hug, and just spend the whole weekend getting to know each other on a completely different level was so special, totally such an incredible opportunity.
Looking ahead, let’s talk about the future for the Nurture Nap Network Retreat. What are you thinking this looks like down the road?
Kerri Nachlas: Well, we can’t not have them. I think it’s a thing now. I think that it’s been so well received. I think that it’s made a mark on businesses and relationships and learning and growing as entrepreneurs that I think it’s necessary, and I think that it’s definitely something that we need to keep on the calendar. What are your thoughts?
Jayne Havens: Absolutely. The Nurture Nap Network Retreat is not being retired. It’s not going away. It’s absolutely going to be a thing for as long as possible. That being said, I am very much tempted to take a gap year and spend maybe next summer scouting new venues, new cities, new locations, and really also just holding some space for people to feel like they’ve got to come back.
Kerri Nachlas: Right. I agree.
Jayne Havens: So maybe this becomes an every-other-year type of situation, or maybe we just skip next summer and come back in 2028. Or maybe you and I are really antsy and we’re like, “Forget it. We’re doing this next summer.” I don’t know. Either way, it’s going to happen. It’s just a question of whether or not we take a summer off to regroup and really reenergize and make sure that the next time we throw a retreat like this one, that nobody says, “You know what? I’ll just catch it next year.”
That’s what I really don’t want to happen. I don’t want people to have it in their minds that it’s just automatically always going to be there. Because I think when you have that mindset, you can just think, “Oh, I’ll catch it next time.” I want people to really feel like, “Yeah, I’ve got to get this while it’s happening,” because it might be an every-other-year thing. It might not be every single summer.
Kerri Nachlas: But the other thing too is regardless of whether it’s every year or every other year, if you say, “Oh, I’ll catch it next time,” you’re missing some big stuff. It’s like you are missing everything we just got to experience over the weekend. That’s something that you definitely want to be a part of and you want to be in on. Because I’ve been to so many conferences for so many reasons, and I can’t tell you that there was ever one conference that I did not learn from, grow from, or take away stuff that impacted my business in a positive way. I would not be the entrepreneur that I am if I had skipped those or if I had been less than enthusiastic about them.
It is a commitment—not only financially but time-wise, planning for the children, all of the things that come with it—but oh my goodness, the return on that investment is huge.
And whether we have a retreat next year or not, I think it’s a given that you and I have to get together in July because, as business besties, it is something that I look forward to. We work really hard throughout the year, and it’s kind of like our own gift to ourselves. We work really hard being the business owners that we are and running our own personal businesses. I think it’s really fun to get away and just enjoy Jayne and Kerri, you know, and not have that overhanging thing about it’s always about work. So that’ll be fun too.
Jayne Havens: Yeah, 100% you and I are going away regardless next summer. That’s a done deal.
Kerri Nachlas: That’s right.
Jayne Havens: I’m pretty positive that Bubbe and Sarah are going to be on that trip as well.
Kerri Nachlas: They will.
Jayne Havens: But yeah, we’ll either just go away, the four of us, and figure out a plan for 2028, or we’ll get it going again quickly. That’s all TBD. But we hope that everybody who was listening to this conversation, I want everyone to feel the energy and the excitement that we got to experience. On some level, unless you actually show up, you’re not going to ever get to feel that feeling. You have to actually be there.
Listening to us talk about it is not ever going to give you the actual feeling that it feels like to be in that room. So I hope you’ll trust us. I hope that next time we invite everybody to come learn and grow with us, that you’ll decide to say yes. And you know, on to bigger and better, more exciting things.
Kerri Nachlas: That’s right. And I do feel like I am convinced that every year, the right people show up for the right reasons, and I just cannot wait for our next one. I’m so excited.
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